of Daniel 7 and 12
Survey of Daniel is offered by request, and is so designed as to set forth evidence that Christians now have the Kingdom of Christ, that it has already been brought by the Lord, as was shown to Daniel, and is taught
in the New Testament. Hopefully
the evidence presented here will help you once and for all settle the question of whether there is yet to be a future return
of our Lord to fully establish His Kingdom, or whether He has already returned and established His reign over that eternal
Kingdom in which we now live and reign with Him.
has much to say about the coming Kingdom of the Messiah (the Son of Man), especially in chapter 7. He gives enough information that we can historically pinpoint both the empires he referred to, and the
very time when the Messiah’s Kingdom would arrive. Daniel talks about four
great empires, beginning with Babylonia. The second was Medo-Persia, the third Greece, and the fourth Rome. Although Daniel describes all this in somewhat spiritual and symbolic language, and
doesn’t give the names of the rulers of that fourth empire, he does give enough information to prove that it refers
to the Roman empire and its first eleven rulers. It
is necessary to see Rome as the fourth beast, since Jews
and even some Christians try to push the Messiah and/or his kingdom off into the future beyond the first century. Daniel says this kingdom would arrive during the days of the kings of that fourth empire. This places it in the days of the Roman empire, since they were the fourth kingdom to arise historically
after Babylon (the first kingdom). Below we have listed the first eleven rulers of the fourth beast.
1. Pompey (52-50
2. Julius (c.
3. Augustus (c.
27 BC to 14 AD)
4. Tiberias (c.
5. Caligula (c.
6. Claudius (c.
7. Nero (c.
8. Galba (June
68 to January 69 AD)
9. Otho (Jan.
69 to April 69 AD)
10. Vitellius (April
69 to Dec. 3, 69 AD)
11. Vespasian (Dec.
69 to 79 AD)
above is a historical listing of Rome’s first rulers,
and harmonizes perfectly with Daniel’s 11 horns of the fourth Beast, or fourth Kingdom. According
to Daniel 2:44, it was during the days of these kings that the God of Heaven would set up the Messiah’s Kingdom. Daniel gives us much more information than just the timing of that Kingdom’s
arrival. He also discusses the nature of that Kingdom and all the other events
that are supposed to happen before it is fully established. But, the main point
is that all these events are placed in the context of that fourth empire and its first eleven rulers.
lesson is designed so that you may read, and answer the questions yourself. A
“yes” or “no” is all that is called for. After completing
the lesson, you are at liberty to draw your own conclusions. None of the lessons
here are designed to bind anything upon you, or make a test of fellowship on anything.
Nor are they designed to violate your own autonomy, or that of the Church. For
we can no more all think alike, than we can all look alike.
I. Section One deals with Daniel 7:7-14, and asks questions regarding the exact teaching
of these verses.
Dan. 7:7 mentions the 4th Beast, and its 10 Horns. (yes) - (no).
Dan. 7:23 mentions the 4th Beast as being the 4th Kingdom. (yes) - (no).
Dan. 7:24 explains the 10 horns as being 10 Kings which will arise from the earth, and from the 4th Kingdom. (yes) - (no).
Dan. 7:8 speaks of another Horn, the 11th Horn. (yes) - (no).
And 3 of the 10 Horns fell before the 11th begin to reign. (yes) - (no).
The 3 that fell before the 11th reigned only short periods. (yes) - (no).
After the 11th Horn is shown, then Daniel says THRONES were set up, plural. (yes)
Verse 9 – THRONES were set up. (thrones plural, more than one) (yes) - (no).
Do the THRONES mentioned in verse 9 refer to the Throne of God? (yes) - (no).
Since it is messianic, does it refer to Rev. 20:4? (yes) - (no).
Does Dan. 7:9, and Rev. 20:4, refer to Matthew 19:28? (yes) - (no).
Dan. 7:9 mentions the word “Ancient” of days. Does this refer only
to Jehovah? (yes) - (no).
Can the phrase “Ancient” of days refer to Jehovah, Christ, and the Holy Spirit, either of the three? (yes) - (no).
Since this portion of Daniel was written in Syriac, rather than Hebrew, could it be a word which depicts the Lord of the Old
Testament as being the Christ of the New? (yes) - (no).
Does Matthew 19:28 say that the 12 Apostles would sit on 12 thrones and Judge the 12 tribes of Israel? (yes) - (no).
Does Matthew 19:28 give authority to the 12 Apostles to Judge the Christians? (yes)
If your answer to No. 16 is yes, then read out John 3:18; 5:24; and Romans 8:1.
Do the above texts teach a future Judgment for Christians who walk after the Spirit?
(yes) - (no).
Does Dan. 7:22 say that the Judgment was passed in favor of the Saints? (yes) - (no).
Do the passages show evidence that the unbeliever is Judged daily? (yes) - (no).
Would you bind, or make a test of fellowship on the idea of a future general Judgment?
(yes) - (no).
Since evidence shows that the 12 Apostles were to Judge the 12 tribes of Israel, and Dan. 7:9, 10 shows this Judgment to be
within the reign of the 11th Horn, would you say that Dan. 7:9, 10 teaches a future and general Judgment? (yes) - (no).
Dan. 7:10, the books were opened. (yes) - (no).
Does Dan. 7:10 refer to the same event of Rev. 20:11-15? (yes) - (no).
Does Daniel teach these events would take place during the period of the 11th Horn?
(yes) - (no).
Dan. 7:13, One like the son of God was coming up to the Ancient of Days. (yes)
Could this refer to Christ’s Resurrection after His death? (yes) - (no).
Does the context-change between verse 10 and verse 13 allow for an earlier date for the resurrection, earlier than the 11th
Horn? (yes) - (no).
Dan. 7:14, the Son of God is given a Kingdom, dominion, glory. (yes) - (no).
Based upon the evidence of Dan. 7:8 the giving, and receiving of the Kingdom was during the period of the first 11 rulers. (yes) - (no).
Was this Kingdom given to all peoples, and all nations? (yes) (no).
Or, was this Kingdom for Jews only? (yes) - (no).
Dan. 7:14, teaches that the Kingdom would soon be destroyed. (yes) - (no).
Dan. 7:14, teaches that the Kingdom of Christ
will NEVER be destroyed. (yes) - (no).
Dan. 7:14 teaches that Christ will appear again to destroy the earth, and His Kingdom.
(yes) - (no).
Does Dan. 7:13, and 14 refer to the parable of Luke 19:11-15? (yes) - (no).
Luke 19:15 – The Nobleman (Christ) returns with the Kingdom after all 10 slaves died.
Does the Scripture teach that Christ appeared the second time, with the Kingdom, during the lifetime of His slaves? (yes) - (no).
If number 38 be true, then does Luke 19:15 relate to Matthew 16:28? (yes) - (no).
If number 39 be true, then do these passages refer to His coming in Matthew 10:23; Heb. 9:28; 1 Pet. 1:13? (yes) - (no).
Second appearing during His slaves’ lifetime, means His slaves are still living today.
(yes) - (no).
Mat. 16:28 teaches that His coming to bring the Kingdom would be in the lifetime of some of the Apostles and those to whom
He spoke. (yes) - (no).
Luke 21:20 speaks of Jerusalem being surrounded by great
armies for destruction. (yes) - (no).
Then Lk. 21:31 speaks of the Kingdom being near, when Jerusalem
was being destroyed. (yes) - (no).
Historically Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD. (yes) - (no).
In Dan. 7:15, some redundancy is necessary, and a double interpretation of what has gone before.
Verse 15, Daniel seeks to know the exact meaning. (yes) - (no).
Dan. 7:16 - It was an angel that Daniel approached. (yes) - (no).
Dan. 7:17 - The 4 great Beasts are 4 Kingdoms which will arise from the earth. (yes) - (no).
The 4 Kingdoms represented Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. (yes) - (no).
The Kingdom of Christ to be received by the Saints during the 4th Beast, or kingdom, would receive it, and possess it for
1000 years. (yes) - (no).
During the 4th Beast, the Saints would receive a Kingdom which would be everlasting, and never be Destroyed. (yes) - (no).
Was the Kingdom of God,
the Levitical Kingdom destroyed? (yes) - (no).
Dan. 7:19 - Daniel desires to know the exact meaning of the 4th Beast. (yes)
Dan. 7:20 - Daniel desires to know the exact meaning of the 10 Horns, and the Horn which came up after the 10, making 11.
(yes) - (no).
According to the chronological order of rulers, Vespasian is the 11th Horn, who reigned from 69 to 79 AD. (yes) - (no).
Dan. 7:21 - “I kept looking and that Horn” (the 11th) “was waging war with the Saints.” (yes)-(no)
The 11th Horn was waging war with the Saints UNTIL the Lord came. (yes) - (no).
And Judgment was passed in favor of the Saints. (yes) (no).
And the time arrived when the Saints took possession of the Kingdom. (yes) -
Question - If the Kingdom came, and the Lord came during the reign of the 11th Horn, do we not have the Kingdom today, and
is this not the second coming, so referred to by many? (yes) - (no).
If this is not the Kingdom the Saints
possess today, is there more than one Kingdom of Christ? (yes) - (no).
If this is not the second coming during the reign of Vespasian, is there more than one second coming? (yes)-(no).
The coming of Dan. 7:22, is this the same coming as that of Matthew 10:23, Matthew 16:28, Luke 21:31? (yes) - (no).
If your answer to number 18 is no, then explain, and show scripture for a Second, second coming, or more than one second coming.
The second appearing of our Lord was to bring the Kingdom, to bring salvation in full Heb. 9:28, to bring Grace 1. Pet. 1:13,
to bring Judgment on the wicked, James 5:9. (yes) - (no).
Does Dan. 7:22 speak clearly regarding the second coming? (yes) - (no).
If there be only one second coming, and one coming of the Kingdom then Daniel
says, that both came during the period of the 11th Horn, Vespasian. (yes) - (no).
Can Daniel’s account of these events be trusted? (yes)- (no).
Daniel 12 confirms all the events of Dan. 7, plus it adds the spreading of the Gospel, the resurrection of Christ, and clarifies
Daniel’s thoughts regarding the time which these events would occur.
Dan. 12:1 confirms the war of Dan. 7:21. (yes) - (no)
Does it confirm the opening of the books in Dan. 7:9,10? (yes) - (no)
Dan. 12:2 confirms the resurrection of Dan. 7:13, Matt. 27:52,53. (yes) - (no).
Dan. 12:3 confirms the Gospel commission. (yes) (no)
Dan. 12:4 conceal the words, until
the time of the end, the end of the Jewish Kingdom. (yes) - (no).
Or the end of the Kingdom of Christ. (yes) - (no).
Dan. 12.5 Angels stood on the banks of the River. (yes) - (no).
Dan. 12:6 And one of the angels said to the other, how long will it be before the end of all these matters. (yes) - (no).
Dan. 12:7 And Daniel heard the other angel say, as soon as they (Rome) finish shattering the power of the holy people, “ALL these events will be completed.” (yes)-(no).
The power of the holy people (Jews) were shattered by the Roman armies in 70 AD. (yes)
The phrase “ALL THESE THINGS” included all the messianic prophecy of Daniel.
(yes) - (no).
The phrase “ALL THESE THINGS” included the second appearing in Dan. 7:22.
(yes) - (no).
The phrase “ALL THESE THINGS” included the appearing of the Kingdom during the lifetime of the 10 slaves of Luke
19:15. (yes) - (no).
If all this be true, then why do we teach that we have the Kingdom, and teach that the Lord has not come back to reign in
Does Ezekiel. 43:7 teach spiritually that the Lord would make His dwelling place among His people? Does Joel. 2:27, 3:17-21, Zeph. 3:15,17, Zech. 2:10-12, Matt. 18:20 confirm His reign among His people?